206awd250

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:54:51 AM
good for them. 1 refinery wont make a difference though.
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condé

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:54:42 AM
Good for them...
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Sam195

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:53:28 AM
Refinery shutdowns for "maintenance" often spike gas prices, so I think this is good news.
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CISA

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:52:54 AM
noted
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RoadhogMA

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Boston
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:52:49 AM
Sounds good.
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rfe330

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Winston-Salem
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:48:12 AM
...don't care.
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jwalkerh

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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:47:50 AM
This sounds like good news for Louisiana, especially the New Orleans area.
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beachbumCA

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:47:05 AM
What we need is a new refinery or two. BUT, not in my back yard.
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rtw777

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:45:58 AM
Hope this helps their stock price.
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packards42

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:38:29 AM
I hope it works that upset the spring price increase if Valero doesn't have maintenance shutdowns for two years. Good on them.
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vizilo

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:37:38 AM
This will lead to lower prices?
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Texrider49

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:37:12 AM
and the price will still raise
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BillHeatherL

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:35:43 AM
profits must be up again
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ljmatney

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Wichita
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:35:34 AM
Quit playing the victim. Be responsible and conserve.
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smoketown

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:35:04 AM
They will make all back in profits fast............
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BazooQC

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:34:00 AM
Very good. Note they make sure to mention the cost. Up go gas prices.
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SpruceGuse2

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:32:03 AM
They don't need excuses anymore, they just do what they want.
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Jizme

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Lincoln
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:32:01 AM
I agree with you Rick52
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04tang

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:30:23 AM
Any excuse to raise prices, We will be paying for this from now and forever.
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JCUBE

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:29:34 AM
Keep hook nosed Al Gore and his enviornmindless tree hugging freaks, and the morons at the Energy Dept. out of the way and we may see some progress. Let's kick OPEC's tail!
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Rick52

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:29:08 AM
So with all the GOUGING they did to us ....They now have money to update their refinery ..... WOW !!!!!!
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captngasTN

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:28:31 AM
hope it starts a trend to increase reliabilty
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esorsd

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:27:51 AM
Hopefully the work doesn't run up the prices too much
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AC-302

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:27:11 AM
Bully for Valero.
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Hunter114

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:27:00 AM
Interesting, though I don't buy gas from them.
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HEBster

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:24:10 AM
Tough timing...
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Retowered

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:24:00 AM
Sell while it is up. GREED
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CharlieC08

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:22:38 AM
At todays price I would be selling all I could.
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MacGyver_1701

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:22:34 AM
This work will probably be planned during the highest demand stage to increase price.
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DABEE1073

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:22:17 AM
VALERO IS A HIGH PRICED GAS ALONG WITH SHELL AND OTHERS. THIS ONLY MEANS THE PRICE WILL GET HIGHER. SHOP AROUND!!
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KarateDude

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:21:34 AM
How can you tell what gas is from the Valero refinery?
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bills55

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:20:46 AM
I also don't buy from valero, ever.
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armstrmb

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:20:40 AM
I agree with niceguytx. I just hope that they are careful when starting up the catalytic cracker.
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diatzikis

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:20:12 AM
Joke. They don't want to improve efficiency, as when refinery go off-line, then gas can go up, even when oil is going down. It's all a game.
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silverfox63

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:19:09 AM
Regardless if they do or don't, I will not buy gas from Valero no matter how cheap it is! I will not buy Valenzuela gas no matter what!
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niceguytx

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:18:55 AM
There is plenty of spare capacity now, so it is a good time to do maintenance.
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techque

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:18:33 AM
they're taking our money in record amounts. the least they can do with it is to reinvest in back into product.
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Gas_Buzzer

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:18:30 AM
Our Valero stations here are NASTY!
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mooneagle

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:15:48 AM
thats good
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tazdriver

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Huntsville
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:15:16 AM
More efficient refineries are something we can use to lower cost.
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The_Gunslinger

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:15:14 AM
Good news!
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dopster

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:14:47 AM
It would really make sense to have refineries up and producing as peak driving season draws near.
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PrepHermit

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:14:29 AM
That's good for the employees and people of the area.
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gasman50

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Portland
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:14:08 AM
Hope it works for them, refining is a very tough business
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:13:07 AM
mreiff wrote:
>Finally, some additional refining capacity.
Oil companies have been investing in "debottlenecking" for quite a while now. They likely would have invested more if it wasn't for Bush-43 signing the energy bill.
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indyjim

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:10:02 AM
Without replacing old technology with new technology, the only thing that really changes is philosophy. You can wave a magic wand and "say" maintenance is not required at the same intervals, but is that really true? Like mechanics say..............you can pay me now or pay me later, but you will pay me.
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klatu2u

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:06:30 AM
Sounds like a good thing, but you can be sure Valero will be recouping it's costs by passing them along to the consumer. And then they'll take the tax advantages too.
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RobertSpratt

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:06:10 AM
Good for them. And maybe consumers.
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RootbeerFan

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:04:39 AM
That is good news for gas prices.
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maske_2222

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Manitoba
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:03:46 AM
Good intend....we will see.
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hauler43

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:02:40 AM
Will hope this bring a steady prices
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jony

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:01:27 AM
WOW! a refinery that thinks ahead, how novel
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