hauler43

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:02:40 AM
Will hope this bring a steady prices
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jony

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:01:27 AM
WOW! a refinery that thinks ahead, how novel
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bababooey2

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:59:32 AM
Why?
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njerald

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:57:47 AM
Komrade B O will set them straight, I mean Socialist....
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2907

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:57:44 AM
Planning for the future.
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KillChain

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:56:53 AM
Valero is an up and coming company, good luck to them.
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oilrobber

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Miami
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:56:39 AM
God bless the independents, this country needs more companies like this one.
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Zuman

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:54:48 AM
Glad to see some one investing in infrastructure.
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Cuzilla

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:51:11 AM
If it works out for them, good!
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fltdoc

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:50:31 AM
Probably a very smart move. If prices remain high and increase as they probably will, avoiding down time will easily pay for the improvements.
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SaltyDogMA

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:49:41 AM
The more we can refine, the better off we'll be.
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kruk

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London
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:49:15 AM
tey predict highier prices????
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afghaned

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Hamilton
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:47:36 AM
Keep refineries open rather than closing them.
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72_Monte

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:47:23 AM
Unusual news, in a sector where they say they aren't making all that much money.
* nstrdnvst: I'm sure that refiners pinching refining capacity overall will have NOTHING to do with fuel prices. Ah huh.
** Goatroper: You don't read too much about the refining business, hmmm?
[Edited by: 72_Monte at 3/22/2010 8:54:21 AM EST]
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Goatroper

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:46:46 AM
Okay...so don't all the refiners do a certain amount of required maintenance?? How is this newsworthy? It's like saying Americans will change their oil in their cars.
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nstrdnvstr

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:45:32 AM
TomT2Lee, "They are getting ready to process that $5 a gallon gas."
If/when gas gets to $5 a gallon, it won't be Valeros fault.
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Zinnoil

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:45:12 AM
Great news. Valero was previously attempting to sell a lot of its refineries.
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AnObserver

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:44:38 AM
Higher retail prices spur investment in production capacity
[Edited by: AnObserver at 3/22/2010 8:44:56 AM EST]
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tbgasmizer

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:44:16 AM
they got it might as well spend it they will get it all back Plus from the consumer.
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mreiff

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Louisville
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:43:44 AM
Finally, some additional refining capacity.
[Edited by: mreiff at 3/22/2010 8:44:07 AM EST]
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braves89

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:42:58 AM
and yet this somehow will lead to higher prices
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DRHCNY

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:42:18 AM
Do more and talk less.
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BartBuzz

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:41:49 AM
They must smell higher prices in the air. Summer isn't that far away.
Keep conserving.
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Skipper52

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:41:36 AM
Sounds like their doing in right thing.
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DieselKat

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:41:15 AM
Hark! Did I just hear some good news from he US?
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Gas Slave

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:39:04 AM
Why on earth do they want greater (unutilized) capacity?
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Ltdc

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:38:39 AM
Sounds like a win win for everyone.
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Agabel

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:37:37 AM
drop in the bucket for the oil companies. I'm sure we will all pay for the cost in fuel prices.
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gilfarm

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:35:13 AM
That seems like alot of money to improve reliability.
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BeaverBilly

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:34:36 AM
Refinery upgrades are long overdue. Thats likely why fuel prices have not dropped.
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curlypooh

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:34:24 AM
?
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SwampDonkeyME

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Maine
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:33:46 AM
They already have three refineries shut down right now, it should make no difference.
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netman044

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Texas
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:32:24 AM
They will have to take it offline to work on it. Since most refineries are running at about 80% capacity that would mean that they are processing about 80,000 barrels/day. I'm sure that this loss of output will lead to higher pump prices.
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Gassed01

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:30:52 AM
Investment in refining - need to see more of this.
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ByGuy

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:28:49 AM
That should lower the price of gas, right?
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salog

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:28:26 AM
thinking ahead, something new for a refiner.
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cableman31

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:28:24 AM
That upgrade will cost us plenty.
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racerdj

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:28:03 AM
Do people care?
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SUV2009

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:27:27 AM
Nothing like planning 2011. The only news here is that production is down because we have not repaired our plant. Guess we should raise gas prices.
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lkozark

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:21:13 AM
When you are running below capacity, it is a good time for repairs/upgrades.
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greenfog

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:18:43 AM
and how long will the plant be down actually? and how much are the cost over runs going to be and how much are they going to tack onto the gas they produce to make us pay for it?
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PENNYPINCHR

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:17:50 AM
Hard to believe that they would invest this much money if they aren't making any money................
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w4kh

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:16:31 AM
$200 Million is a lots of money to spend on a refinery unless it is profitable... this must mean all the whining about not being able to make a profit was just whining...
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torch347

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:14:05 AM
We should be refining more oil in the states, which would cut importing from other countries.
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Buck_on_Bass

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:13:56 AM
Looks like Valero is expecting to stay in the refining business and is attempting to improve efficiency.
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30mpg80

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:12:00 AM
Have to invest money to make money.
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Digger5

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:10:51 AM
More up time, means more $$$ in their pockets. Sounds like a good strategy to me.
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I10Express

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:10:39 AM
Bloomberg is the speculators rag.
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bad_sailor

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London
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:08:47 AM
That's nice.
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JimL1

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:08:35 AM
In the last 30 minutes ziyulu has posted five articles designed to increase speculator frenzy. Is ziyulu a speculator/manipulator? Is this because ziyulu hopes to get more amateur SPECULATORs sucked into the SPECULATOR & MANIPULATOR game. As I said before, I have been tracking SPECULATOR postings on this site for weeks. The least number of articles designed to increase speculation on any one day has been two. At the moment, it is five out of five. Experienced SPECULATORs tend to win more profits as more of those not deeply experienced in commodity speculation get into the game. It is very similar to a poker game in that respect. The new players/ SPECULATORs normally get their clocks cleaned and the experienced players/ SPECULATORs increase their winnings. Like I said, it is just like in poker games, suck the inexperienced in and clean their clocks or rather pockets.
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cv

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:08:32 AM
After those improvements they will be able to reduce the percentage of crude refined and keep gas prices high, that's the name of the game.
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FBI2991

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 8:08:12 AM
Just in time to sell more gas at the higher prices?
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