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For Toyota's Lexus it's deja vu: floor mat problem prompts recall

GasBuddy Blog -- Late last week NHTSA issued this statement about Toyota's 2010 Lexus RX 350 and RX 450 H models, approximately 154,000 vehicles:

"After carefully reviewing the data, including consumer complaints and information provided by the manufacturer, NHTSA requested that Toyota conduct an immediate recall of the aforementioned Lexus vehicles for a serious safety issue involving potential pedal entrapment by the floor mat." Pedal entrapment can cause runaway acceleration.

If you think this sounds familiar, you're not imagining things. For Toyota's Lexus, it's deja vu all over again. NHTSA alerted Toyota to the same problem in 2009 for the Lexus ES350 and Lexus IS and Toyota responded to NHTSA that it was not certain that any "safety...

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Submitted Jul 03, 2012 By: PD

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FloorMats Rookie Author Orlando Posts:1 Points:120 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 9:25:56 AM Ignore FloorMats Report Abuse I don't understand why this matter was not considered during planning and testing and quality control, and it happened again? poor system or no system?
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,599 Points:1,607,570 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 7, 2012 9:49:25 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse methinks me's having a deja vu moment too.
lunarrv15 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:14,853 Points:2,383,310 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 12:46:10 AM Ignore lunarrv15 Report Abuse okay...interesting thanks for posting
wulf2000 Champion Author Miami Posts:3,022 Points:1,387,505 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 2:50:06 PM Ignore wulf2000 Report Abuse Yesterday's article.
GOBUTLER Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,425 Points:388,335 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 2:47:28 PM Ignore GOBUTLER Report Abuse Yes it is!!!
snappytom2 Champion Author Corpus Christi Posts:3,541 Points:274,320 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 2:17:16 PM Ignore snappytom2 Report Abuse old news.
Banjoe Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:4,231 Points:612,235 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 12:26:30 PM Ignore Banjoe Report Abuse Hard to believe that people can control their cars when they can't even control their floor mats.
muquee Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,421 Points:519,795 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 12:17:13 PM Ignore muquee Report Abuse You would think this is tested to the nth degree before hand.
Digger52 Champion Author Chicago Posts:2,397 Points:846,985 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 12:09:37 PM Ignore Digger52 Report Abuse Old, but still disturbing, news
Samo1961 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,885 Points:618,725 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 12:06:16 PM Ignore Samo1961 Report Abuse It seems Toyota is having a lot of recalls the last few years, what does this say about the company.
bluetatanka Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:55,779 Points:778,905 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 12:00:40 PM Ignore bluetatanka Report Abuse Glad I don't have a Toyota!
bootsy1966 Rookie Author Richmond Posts:4 Points:405 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 12:00:11 PM Ignore bootsy1966 Report Abuse Replaced mines with better ones!!
CheckitoutGuy Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,311 Points:769,590 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:59:42 AM Ignore CheckitoutGuy Report Abuse Yesterday's story
Caribou2011 Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,756 Points:766,885 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:59:11 AM Ignore Caribou2011 Report Abuse Maybe they need to get the toy out of Toyota!!
nobodyMO Champion Author Kansas City Posts:2,251 Points:554,305 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:58:48 AM Ignore nobodyMO Report Abuse More recalls
outlaw329 Champion Author Austin Posts:7,611 Points:1,373,305 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:58:45 AM Ignore outlaw329 Report Abuse How many times is this? Send em back to japan!
Eagle68 Sophomore Author Boston Posts:221 Points:1,662,285 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:57:50 AM Ignore Eagle68 Report Abuse Will they ever learn?
jmg144 Champion Author Maryland Posts:9,692 Points:2,899,180 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:55:14 AM Ignore jmg144 Report Abuse Is there new Toyota management in the last few years.
grammamNV Champion Author Nevada Posts:2,335 Points:372,425 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:54:40 AM Ignore grammamNV Report Abuse is it really so hard to just fix/remove the floor mat???
adgam Champion Author Orange County Posts:2,262 Points:500,880 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:54:23 AM Ignore adgam Report Abuse kk
WE0H Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,533 Points:480,165 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:54:21 AM Ignore WE0H Report Abuse First off you can't 'jumper a computer' in a Prius and have the car function at all. Anything other than a factory floormat could possibly cause issues with the mat moving forward under pedals. It's called use your head, if the mat slides around, move it back or only use factory mats and make sure that mat anchor is fastened. Common sense is all that is needed.
GreenLegend Champion Author Raleigh Posts:1,640 Points:398,385 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:52:08 AM Ignore GreenLegend Report Abuse Mis-engineered FLOOR MATS!!!???
Jizme Champion Author Lincoln Posts:9,871 Points:2,903,525 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:50:31 AM Ignore Jizme Report Abuse They are probably saying deja poo.
rbrowdersr Champion Author Detroit Posts:5,716 Points:1,817,885 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:48:46 AM Ignore rbrowdersr Report Abuse A continuing drama.
CPayZombie Champion Author Phoenix Posts:10,059 Points:1,653,665 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:45:23 AM Ignore CPayZombie Report Abuse Manufacturers should not be responsible for how drivers kick their feet around and displace the mat.
dieselme2011 Champion Author Vancouver Posts:2,583 Points:600,790 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:45:10 AM Ignore dieselme2011 Report Abuse Old News
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,568 Points:2,900,145 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:42:37 AM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse Saw this yesterday. Toyota it not willing to admit that, yeah, something is wrong with the computers. Yet a professor at SIU-Carbondale was able to replicate the failure in the Prius by jumpering the computer. Toyota made a point of ignoring him. Toyota needs to have their backsides sued off, much like Ford with the Pinto of the '70s
toxigas Champion Author Oakland Posts:1,202 Points:405,640 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:42:25 AM Ignore toxigas Report Abuse The mechanical solution is probably a done deal. It's the potential litigation that's causing them to drag their feet.
gasokie Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,442 Points:1,323,805 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:42:22 AM Ignore gasokie Report Abuse You wonder how Toyota deals with qulity control as well as they do when you see how they have handled this little problem. Oh wait! Maybe they don't deal well with this and their quality is a figment of the imagination of a loving press.
carefrey Champion Author Orlando Posts:5,525 Points:1,157,535 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:40:35 AM Ignore carefrey Report Abuse Old news!
WeasleyOC Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,139 Points:800,375 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:40:20 AM Ignore WeasleyOC Report Abuse Check your floor mats before you start to drive.
honkerman Champion Author San Jose Posts:44,217 Points:2,394,395 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:37:37 AM Ignore honkerman Report Abuse deja vu is not new
ampinoy13 Champion Author Oregon Posts:36,623 Points:2,648,655 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:37:21 AM Ignore ampinoy13 Report Abuse Yesterday's story.
kcboy Champion Author Utah Posts:3,958 Points:1,505,850 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:36:47 AM Ignore kcboy Report Abuse I don't believe it this is happening again. Can't they get it right.
Skunk63 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,551 Points:556,525 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:36:47 AM Ignore Skunk63 Report Abuse Uh oh.
fowlcan Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,104 Points:682,620 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:36:44 AM Ignore fowlcan Report Abuse Buy American!
pitamon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:4,894 Points:1,824,410 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:34:27 AM Ignore pitamon Report Abuse Here we go again.
greenfog Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,480 Points:1,637,070 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:33:53 AM Ignore greenfog Report Abuse sounds like they had better take floor mats out all together.
BobbyVA Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:5,498 Points:1,174,575 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:32:23 AM Ignore BobbyVA Report Abuse SOS, just like the Toyota problem eariler. People need to be spoon fed as they are now entitlement babies.
Suzy7Q Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:2,167 Points:367,505 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:29:58 AM Ignore Suzy7Q Report Abuse Thats what happen when you buy foreign made.
mickealo Champion Author Spokane Posts:6,152 Points:2,142,485 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:29:27 AM Ignore mickealo Report Abuse does happen I replaced mine when I bought it put good ones in it
SUSANCK Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,632 Points:706,505 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:28:46 AM Ignore SUSANCK Report Abuse Sorry about that.
bobcatfan Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,592 Points:616,570 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:28:15 AM Ignore bobcatfan Report Abuse Buy American. Problem solved.
SUPERQUACK Champion Author Sacramento Posts:6,116 Points:1,909,880 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:28:01 AM Ignore SUPERQUACK Report Abuse Human error,as always
FrankTA2 Champion Author New York Posts:4,293 Points:1,093,810 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:28:01 AM Ignore FrankTA2 Report Abuse Didn't plan on buying a Toyota or Lexus anyway.
IMLURCH Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,174 Points:1,101,230 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:27:38 AM Ignore IMLURCH Report Abuse Old Story
ssduck Sophomore Author Orange County Posts:158 Points:1,662,560 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:27:25 AM Ignore ssduck Report Abuse ok
mindrisa Veteran Author Denver Posts:375 Points:133,755 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:25:55 AM Ignore mindrisa Report Abuse ok
jadeusa Champion Author Dallas Posts:9,325 Points:1,823,040 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:24:21 AM Ignore jadeusa Report Abuse Toyota is now being associated with recalls which is bad PR.
JENNYHK Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,631 Points:711,595 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:23:29 AM Ignore JENNYHK Report Abuse OK.