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Compressed Natural Gas Vehicles: What Are They?

33 wytv News -- Drivers seem to be constantly looking for some relief at the pump. So much so, they turn to vehicles with alternative sources of energy, whether its hybrids or electric, the options are increasing.

Another option that could be on the horizon for the average consumer, Compressed Natural Gas or CNG vehicles.

"Sometimes when people hear natural gas vehicles, they say 'Oh I remember that technology. We tried that 20 years ago.'" said Stephe Yborra, NGV America (Natural Gas Vehicles for America). "And what we'll say to them is 'You probably had an eight track too.'"

Natural gas is making a strong comeback.

"The technology has moved about 3 or 4 generations since the technology that was out there in the mid 1990's up through the early 2000's." said Yborra

CNG Vehicles come specially equippe

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 6:03:42 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse indeed roadhog. not too many stations yet, but why have many stations if there's no demand. So even more chicken / egg?
the1roadhog Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,913 Points:2,057,655 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Nov 4, 2012 8:12:29 AM Ignore the1roadhog Report Abuse Well, the infrastructure for CNG has to be in place, otherwise it's a chicken/egg question.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 4, 2012 7:09:33 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse good until CNG is as expensive as gasoline.
avlis82 Rookie Author Georgia Posts:49 Points:32,195 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:05:03 AM Ignore avlis82 Report Abuse Sounds like a more feasible alternative energy then battery powered cars
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,830 Points:644,225 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 12:29:36 AM Ignore bston Report Abuse It will be interesting to follow & see how well it performs in time to come.
jrs4125 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,768 Points:593,695 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 10:38:29 PM Ignore jrs4125 Report Abuse ok
listerone Champion Author Boston Posts:3,390 Points:880,715 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:42:08 PM Ignore listerone Report Abuse If the gas is there it should be used.
VB_Richard Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:1,668 Points:353,770 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 3:13:17 PM Ignore VB_Richard Report Abuse They are the future!!!
ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,677 Points:1,872,050 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 1:13:16 PM Ignore ss70 Report Abuse the cost quoted 8 - 10 grand is robbery ... most of the asia conversion are done for less than 2k. Even in canada the price is less than half of that
Van_Halen Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,855 Points:644,155 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 12:09:10 PM Ignore Van_Halen Report Abuse . Idiots at WYTV News act like this is something new. Atlanta Gas and Light has been running its vehicles on CNG since they got rid of their horses! My Expedition is dual fuel, gasoline and CNG. The problem is Honda is the only big company making CNG vehicles and they only have one model and can't build them fast enough. The other problem is the EPA which has stupid rules on what vehicles can and can't be converted. My Expedition is not on the list, but the exact same engine that is in my vehicle is in the F-150, F-250, and Service Vans which are on the list. If a vehicle can run on gasoline, it can run on CNG, the EPA has absolutely no business saying which vehicles can and can't be converted especially since a CNG vehicle emits no emissions that the EPA regulates!
schatzila Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,959 Points:1,018,570 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 12:02:52 PM Ignore schatzila Report Abuse Bring it out. Different choices is the way to go.
DesertRat2011 Champion Author Riverside Posts:3,628 Points:487,755 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 11:44:00 AM Ignore DesertRat2011 Report Abuse Had them when I was a Fleet Manager for a desert City. Most were Ford F-150 bi-fuels. They ran on CNG and then would switch to gas once the CNG tank was empty. Only way you could tell was that the fuel gauge would go from empty to full when it switched. I found them to work very good, just that the tank took up bed space. All our sweepers & buses ran on CNG. Most trash trucks where I live also run on CNG.
eschroth442 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,089 Points:334,695 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 10:41:05 AM Ignore eschroth442 Report Abuse he vechiles are out there so is the infrastructure. All we need is the stations. The gas companies have been running their fleets have been using CNG for years... Time for the rest of the country to get with the program.
cgrey8 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:1,013 Points:260,190 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 10:18:24 AM Ignore cgrey8 Report Abuse A few months ago, there was an article talking about GE and some other company doing investigation into next generation CNG compressors that pump more fuel and do it for cheaper than current generation CNG compressors. If you are willing to do the CNG conversion to your vehicle yourself, the conversion and tank are not that bad, price-wise. What's expensive is the compressor. That will run nearly 4x the price of the conversion kit and tank. And then if you don't have piping and wiring experience, it'll cost you even more to have the compressor installed in your home. Obviously you have to have NatGas piped to your home. Point being, once these cheap compressors become available, if ever, then you'll see FAR FAR more adoption of CNG on existing vehicles being converted and new vehicles being sold as CNG. And with more CNG vehicles out there, more infrastructure will be justifiable.
fuel2use Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,494 Points:734,370 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 9:43:30 AM Ignore fuel2use Report Abuse Expand the infrastructure.
SycamoreISU Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,040 Points:261,185 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 9:21:08 AM Ignore SycamoreISU Report Abuse Eight-tracks were already long gone 20 years ago. There were already suitable alternatives to them. In contrast, there's still no alternative that seriously competes with gasoline.
bsnort Veteran Author Huntsville Posts:429 Points:236,580 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 9:12:12 AM Ignore bsnort Report Abuse Still have a ways to go...........
Mark8601 All-Star Author Bakersfield Posts:918 Points:381,940 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 8:53:57 AM Ignore Mark8601 Report Abuse Check with AAA or your local utility Co. to see if and where CNG is available. School and mass transit buses run on it usually.
EvergreenON All-Star Author Ontario Posts:948 Points:485,415 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 8:19:15 AM Ignore EvergreenON Report Abuse Long way to go....
scu227 Champion Author New Haven Posts:4,162 Points:773,830 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 8:13:48 AM Ignore scu227 Report Abuse All for it, but need to see some refueling stations first
rbrowdersr Champion Author Detroit Posts:5,730 Points:1,820,915 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 7:05:23 AM Ignore rbrowdersr Report Abuse At the present moment, an oddity.
checkum Champion Author St. Louis Posts:7,603 Points:1,476,090 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:58:25 AM Ignore checkum Report Abuse hope to see a refueling station near me soon
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,978 Points:2,119,565 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:52:19 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse Nice... Need to take advantage of all forms of alternate energy sources...
tbgasmizer Champion Author Ontario Posts:6,053 Points:1,230,620 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:45:07 AM Ignore tbgasmizer Report Abuse Go CNG.
Ringmaster2008 Champion Author Ontario Posts:7,588 Points:1,165,735 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:43:50 AM Ignore Ringmaster2008 Report Abuse Will have to have a better infrastructure in place before they really take off.
sdchris Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,551 Points:738,375 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:42:34 AM Ignore sdchris Report Abuse ok
Paw5X Champion Author Gary Posts:9,913 Points:2,270,230 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:39:11 AM Ignore Paw5X Report Abuse Gotta start somewhere!
ghoag Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,138 Points:262,700 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:38:53 AM Ignore ghoag Report Abuse Where can you buy that fuel?
forderjunk Champion Author Maine Posts:10,643 Points:2,174,585 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:37:30 AM Ignore forderjunk Report Abuse will be another 10 years min. before there is enough infrastructure to support it
fordfan1 Champion Author Indiana Posts:9,102 Points:1,892,965 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:37:05 AM Ignore fordfan1 Report Abuse These vehicles make good sense right now with there so much natural gas out there!!!!
slkmoo Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,263 Points:331,425 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:36:54 AM Ignore slkmoo Report Abuse ok
RUNNINONEMPTYFL Champion Author Florida Posts:1,408 Points:460,825 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:35:13 AM Ignore RUNNINONEMPTYFL Report Abuse Here we go again...
TxMtb Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,545 Points:345,905 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:34:34 AM Ignore TxMtb Report Abuse Will make good use of CNG. Need a backbone of fueling options and of course the price will increase as they are building them and the demand increases.
keithyoon1977 Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,924 Points:497,665 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:31:24 AM Ignore keithyoon1977 Report Abuse ok
jppezz Champion Author New Mexico Posts:8,601 Points:1,694,510 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:31:23 AM Ignore jppezz Report Abuse Now watch the natural gas prices rise.
bobzilla11 Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,206 Points:497,225 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:30:47 AM Ignore bobzilla11 Report Abuse options
nb52 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:7,790 Points:1,548,800 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:30:45 AM Ignore nb52 Report Abuse Sounds like a fad to me.
mark1962 Champion Author Albany Posts:5,746 Points:1,267,440 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:30:33 AM Ignore mark1962 Report Abuse A great way to save fuel.
sappie Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,506 Points:587,570 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:30:17 AM Ignore sappie Report Abuse no good.
GasPriceHelp4u Champion Author Dayton Posts:2,697 Points:570,750 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:29:44 AM Ignore GasPriceHelp4u Report Abuse Make sure we have enough for the home heating first!!!
HelenT Champion Author Buffalo Posts:2,964 Points:600,100 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:28:26 AM Ignore HelenT Report Abuse let's not increase the cost of heating our homes.
padlocks2 Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,062 Points:621,880 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:28:00 AM Ignore padlocks2 Report Abuse Good for everyone
FPLREP Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,271 Points:2,450,200 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:27:29 AM Ignore FPLREP Report Abuse no natural gas in my town.
prcoqui Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,960 Points:1,675,150 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:25:28 AM Ignore prcoqui Report Abuse Good for fleets.
BoerneWatch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:15,557 Points:2,456,115 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:24:50 AM Ignore BoerneWatch Report Abuse Interesting. I did not know that CNG burned hotter than diesel and gasoline. Kind of an expensive conversion.
timarcos Champion Author Corpus Christi Posts:5,762 Points:1,156,865 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:24:17 AM Ignore timarcos Report Abuse Ok.
OldMan322 Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,165 Points:1,596,690 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:24:04 AM Ignore OldMan322 Report Abuse "isem" Yes, but it is a good one
smokinjoe54 Champion Author Ohio Posts:4,728 Points:914,485 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:23:39 AM Ignore smokinjoe54 Report Abuse I'd use it.
Clayton2000 Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,419 Points:492,155 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:23:09 AM Ignore Clayton2000 Report Abuse Might give it a try, not around here yet
BigE350 Sophomore Author Cleveland Posts:136 Points:1,145,630 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 6:23:02 AM Ignore BigE350 Report Abuse I'd consider it if there were more public fuel stations around.