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Japan rethinks silent hybrid cars

BBC -- Japan is considering the introduction of noise-making devices for near-silent hybrid cars following safety fears from vision-impaired pedestrians.

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Submitted Jul 04, 2009 By: Timberline
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:13:20 AM

I hope all those who called this BS and think it's just idiotic, I hope for your sakes, you never will experience visual impairedness.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:12:40 AM

and it doesn't have to be "noise pollution" - fossil fuel cars make probably more noise than what this would need to keep visually impaired folks aware.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:11:41 AM

doesn't have to be much noise, just enough to notice the oncoming traffic closing in.
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niceguytx
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:57:30 PM

I don't know the answer, but I don't like making noise for no good purpose.
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Tucker1961
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:27:06 PM

I think the should put bigger tires on the hybrids, so they won't get damaged when they run over pedestrians
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carlsonguitars
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 1:18:51 PM

Survival of the fittest... nah, just kidding.... But seriously, it's the driver half of the time!!!
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Chazzy12
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 12:18:52 PM

What?
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celtic14
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 12:12:29 PM

Looks like this BS has now crossed the Pacific. One last time: hybrids are NOT silent! My wife is 100% deaf in one ear and she can easily hear the engine on her Civic hybrid.
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bluebird1
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 12:11:37 PM

It's an issue easily solved if people agree on it...please no beeping like trucks backing up.
Asfor tampatim below, lots of sense...the diesel VW gets better mpg (at least highway) & much more power than the hybrid. Haven't seen the commercial yet...where does the new Beetle come into it????
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gas_too_high
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 12:03:06 PM

This has been talked about in the US. There will probably be US regulations at some point.
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dl72
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:57:47 AM

I have heard this is an issue.
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tampatim
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:54:42 AM

Reminds me of the new Volkswagen commercial!

Where the black lovebug is talking to his neighbor, who is washing his new Prius, about the new Diesel TDI.

The VW sounds like a muscle car and gets better mileage than the Prius, which makes no noise!
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mchinte1
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:54:37 AM

I agres
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ftsgt
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:54:29 AM

couldbe a problem
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OHMS
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:54:03 AM

little beeps like the traffic semaphores put out to lure vision impaired pedestrians
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KerryDeland
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:51:20 AM

That's the problem right now. Japan is rethinking ... and we're not!!
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thirstyauto
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:49:35 AM

Yup, just what we need - more noise!
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arvo87
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:49:21 AM

wow, a car so silent that it needs artificial noise... I wonder if you could turn it off or on for highway driving versus urban driving? maybe with a speed sensor... above 45 and it turns off
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phurburger
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:48:37 AM

Oh, so now it's okay to make all kinds of noise in public!
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POPSAZ
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:44:24 AM

now we are making noixe polution
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NorthglennBill
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:43:41 AM

They will probably sell more of them if they make it sound like a muscle car. And it will give me something to laugh at every time one drives by.
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Valricoslash
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:43:11 AM

Oh, the unintended consequences! Can you cet one that sounds like a Harley?
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mazdaboy
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:42:29 AM

Wouldn't it be better to put a device in silent cars that send some kind of sound to special device carried only by the vision impaired than to make noise that everyone can hear every where you go?
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PathfinderSC
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:38:58 AM

Grins - Make it sound like a GTO.
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Bigwaynef
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:38:16 AM

What we need is to keep pedestrians off the road. Secondly I like noise.
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RichardoB
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:37:39 AM

Unbelievably stupid.
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twiper1
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:37:04 AM

Not a problem for me
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vegaland
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:35:42 AM

Just put a radio speaker on the outside.
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ampinoy13
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:33:30 AM

Shhhh! There's too much noise pollution as it is. Like me playing Princess Princess and Chisato Moritaka (both great Japanese artists) as loud as I can.
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fsuford
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:32:53 AM

I drive a hybrid, and my blind friends say this is not an issue. If drivers would just pay attention, it isn't a problem. Also, visually impaired people tend to be smarter about crossing at crosswalks than those who are sighted, who don't look where they are going and walk in front of cars.
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jiamusi45
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:32:40 AM

I can see them makeing a movie out of this. Those little silent wonders.
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Ticoman54
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:32:22 AM

I can see in congested urban areas where this could be a problem. However, it appears to me that the problem would be more prevalent at busy intersections where traffic control devices exist, such as the walk/don't walk devices. These devices could be used utilizing sound making tools to alert pedestrians of when it is safe to cross.

I know this technolgy has existed for decades as they were in place in the mid 1970's at Florida State University due to the high enrollment of blind students.

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fuelconscious
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:29:12 AM

silent cars are becoming reality and more accessible. how about a built in zapping device for the visually imparred.
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ghmortensen
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:28:27 AM

Ditto electric cars.
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spudly03
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:28:12 AM

I wonder how many people have been run over so far because of this?
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ChEPhD
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:22:39 AM

i kind of like the hybrid vehicles being so quiet

its nice to not have so much noise pollution and have more signages for drivers
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LocalSpyGuy
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:22:18 AM

Maybe they can be equiped with some sort of radar device.
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MG_Sputnik
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:22:09 AM

Sounds good!
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altima2008
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:17:33 AM

Not a bad idea. My stepdaughter is visionally impaired so that would help her out alot when she is out there.
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rbrowdersr
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:16:11 AM

Just as usual. A certain segment of society isn't remembered until later.
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tidbitKY
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:14:39 AM

Good idea for countries with a large population in a small area.
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BKool
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:12:57 AM

Making sound like a '68 Camarro with 525 h.p.!
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kenjamin5150
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:11:32 AM

Reminds me of those gimmicky "deer alerts" that were sold in the 90's to scare deer away from you as you drove your car on the highway.
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ladyjj
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:10:45 AM

Seems like they forgot about these folks when they started making these things!
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USAFA82
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:58:51 AM

They sneak up on you in parking lots.
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WP62
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:58:48 AM

Any vehicle is dangerous to a vision-impaired pedestrian. What about bicycles?
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CptnCanada
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:57:51 AM

wont help when you drive faster than the speed of sound.
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:56:42 AM

Sounds good now if some brains can be installed in people we might have
something.
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Sportdeck
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:55:05 AM

I love the VW TDI ad where the neighbor has to make the sound that his car makes! lol.
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hank1326
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:54:34 AM

Interesting concept. Would this increase the cost?
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