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Red-light camera fight filled with frustrating speed bumps

sun-sentinel -- What's it like trying to fight a red-light camera ticket? Frustrating.

"A laborious, tedious process," Danny Murphy said as he left the Delray Beach courthouse last month. "This whole thing just gives me a sour feeling. But that's why I'm fighting it. Even if I lose, I'll feel better fighting it."

Murphy got a ticket in the mail in July for a slow-rolling right turn at a Boca Raton intersection June 24. Because he wanted to challenge it, he had to wait 30 days and let the $158 violation turn into a $264 state Uniform Traffic Citation (UTC).

Murphy, of Highland Beach, thought his Oct. 29 court date would give him resolution. Instead it was just another speed bump on the slow road to red-light justice.

He has to go back again – on Jan. 9 – for a hearing where he'll learn his fate.


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 7:41:08 AM

waste of taxpayers money to make people come to court not once, but twice.
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the1roadhog
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 7:50:00 AM

Got me a radar detector that alerts on these rascals and it works well.
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remay
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 6:46:30 AM

I didn't know red light cams would ticket thoss kinds of "infractions"...
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gs7101
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 6:46:12 AM

Good luck with trying to fight a ticket!
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 12:44:23 AM

Going to take a lot to work the bugs out.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 5:40:33 PM

you only have to come to a dead stop for a MICROSECOND.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 3:02:17 PM

Our government at work ... we have the best government money can buy.
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blupupher
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:27:13 AM

he still has faith in the government?
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Norm10
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:12:15 AM

Red light cameras are a big cash grab that only increase the number of rear end accidents.
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eschroth442
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 9:27:18 AM

red light cameras are nothing but a money grab!!!! they should be outlawed!!!!
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oilfreak
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 8:40:59 AM

They only want to make money off of it.
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smokinjoe54
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 8:32:01 AM

Good for the courts but bad for drivers. Just watch how you drive and you won't have to worry about getting one in the mail.
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SUNOIL
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 8:28:32 AM

All about money without your day in court
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Hop1LA
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 8:12:25 AM

This whole process has dreamed by a company in Phoenix, AZ called Red Flex. They sold the concept to cash strapped cities as a low cost revenue stream, just sign a five year contract with the company and collect your share of the fines.
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EvergreenON
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 8:04:48 AM

These gadgets are only a way to collect taxes
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 8:02:54 AM

Before anyone shouts, "Just follow the law", understand that Florida's law is diferent.

From the actual article: "According to the red-light camera law, drivers are allowed to make right turns "in a careful and prudent manner," but that phrase isn't clearly defined for police and traffic magistrates." In this case the driver rolled through the right turn with his brake lights on (proved by the photo) while the left turn arrows were lit and there would be no cross traffic.

That sounds careful and prudent to me. If a cop had been present and observed it, I would hope they would have exercised a modicum of discretion and let that go.
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Joeski1
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:45:38 AM

driving is a game....

if you are on the mark....

you survive, and you are free to move on

if ya ain't..

the money goes to them
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:44:29 AM

Too much government control.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:42:13 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:33:07 AM

If you chose to break the law prudent selection of the location is a must. Jesse James has not seen fit to return to Northfield, recently.
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tbgasmizer
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:32:58 AM

What bull crap.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:31:27 AM

Tyranny
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:27:52 AM

Its cheaper to pay the bill than fight it.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:26:10 AM

Is it really worth it... most people would say no.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:24:07 AM

They deserve the tickets!
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:23:39 AM

It's abuse of power by the government who just want to keep their hands in your pockets to give it away
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SpruceGuse2
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:23:20 AM

Fight it for peace of mind.................
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:20:58 AM

It's all about the money.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:20:09 AM

It's complete B.S. they can charge you more money for fighting in court. That should be illegal!!!!
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GPD1739P
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:19:36 AM

The theory of red-light cameras seems sound, but the implementation certainly leaves a LOT to be desired.

Since the majority of red-light cameras are installed and maintained by private companies contracted to municipalities, a profit has to be guaranteed - why else would a private company install something? Not to operate at a loss, that's for sure.

Take the profit out of it and see how unpopular it becomes - even more unpopular than it is now with the driving populace.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:19:36 AM

ha ha ha
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:18:46 AM

Rough justice.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:18:35 AM

Post a COP out there.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:17:50 AM

The message: Do not challenge the govt.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:16:19 AM

One of many governmental money scams. Governments are bigger crooks than the Mafia.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:16:07 AM

A stop is a stop...a slow roll is NOT a stop whether the brake lights were on or not. He si going to lose that one!
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rbrowdersr
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:15:44 AM

Money maker.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:15:29 AM

The whole system is a farce! These cameras have NOTHING to do with safety and everything to do with revenue!
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:15:22 AM

Maybe he should have followed they law and actually stopped.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:14:51 AM

Just another money machine.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:14:31 AM

What a bunch of bull hockey!
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virostek
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:13:06 AM

Those cameras are a type of commuter tax. They are there to raise revenue. In DC a single camera has issued millons of dollars for tickets.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:12:16 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:11:55 AM

Yep, agree with TxMtb!!!
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:11:46 AM

Who knows for sure....just saying...
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:11:31 AM

Just a revenue generator.
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evac93rd
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:11:01 AM

" slow-rolling right turn" he didn't stop at the red light so why is he fighting a ticket for NOT stopping at a red light. What an I missing here??
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:08:55 AM

Cameras are revenue devices, not safety. They should be banned.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:08:03 AM

I'd rather have the red light cameras than have to watch our government paying for salaries for police officers to sit on their asses in a cruiser waiting for someone to roll through. The cameras are cheaper to operate and provide a more persistent deterrent to violations. As I recall from one case study in TN, these systems even yield more revenues than from sending out officers to do the same thing. I'm in favour of having a larger portion of the cost of government and policing be funded by the people taking the risks rather than the rest of the taxpaying public.
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BazooQC
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:07:43 AM

I hate it when the system becomes too automated.
No room for valid exceptions to the rules.
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