badbonita

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 1:18:18 PM
Increased reliability. What a concept!
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cpl11787

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 12:56:39 PM
hmm, maybe a good thing.
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janctx

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Lubbock
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 12:32:09 PM
thats a start
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Robert44

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 11:05:41 AM
Its about time for this to happen!!
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sivart

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:59:12 AM
It's about time to overhaul a refinery...When will we build a new one?
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Lengas

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Gary
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:52:46 AM
Get it done now
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Dale Jr.

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:50:55 AM
So true napermike79. Let's hope they can.
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DirtDauber

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:49:57 AM
Good idea.
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cnet1

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:49:28 AM
bad hurricane seasone means higher prices because refineries will most likely get damaged. but wait, theyre not using these refineries now anyways, just an excuse to raise prices
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napermike79

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:47:24 AM
Hopefully they hurricane-proof the place too.
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NashGas

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:47:11 AM
Sounds good.
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Marty_P

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Baton Rouge
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:46:39 AM
Great for Louisiana and the U.S.!!!
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PhilMils

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:46:37 AM
This is good.
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HawaiianGuy

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:44:45 AM
This'll last until the next time they decide that they're not making enough profits off of their refining operations.
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POPSAZ

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:40:51 AM
More production is always good.
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ricker8

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:40:34 AM
any work is good.
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Italianman

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:40:31 AM
Good for Valero.
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VetteFan

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:39:44 AM
Work on the refinery is good news.
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spunky4443

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:37:32 AM
With all the Money that they have bled out of us, they should have no problem doing this.
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TRAIN RIDER

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:35:59 AM
WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS? WHEN THEY GO DOWN THE PRICES GO UP, I KNOW THE OIL COMPANIES WANT THE PRICES UP.
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Maintroll

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:34:44 AM
This is nice, but is the consumer going to pay for it?
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Don20

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:29:55 AM
"There is a big surplus in the oil market, and the fundamentals aren't that much better than they were a few months ago," said Ben Westmore, commodities economist at National Australia Bank in Melbourne. "It's not really clear that oil prices (above $80) are really justified." ...
This news should be considered normal operating procedures, if you are in the business to make money. Unscheduled down time are expensive to any refinery..
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CatMan623

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:28:06 AM
Well, Congress is on a roll. Why don't they go ahead and take over oil exploration, production, refining, distribution and retailing....? Now THAT'S one scary thought.......
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Wolfwings

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Delaware
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:26:28 AM
INteresting concept, but I'm not sure what it all means.
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copperhead8

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Boston
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:25:50 AM
I totally agree with goalie1950.
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kyrunner

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:25:26 AM
Glad to see they are looking ahead.
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mmene

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:19:37 AM
mackconsult - that seems obvious doesn't it? Don't all companies make changes to increase ROI? You don't think that GE makes lightbulbs or Microsoft makes software for the general upliftment of the public do you?
It turns out the best way for Valero (or any refiner) to make ROI is to make the maximum product at the lowest cost. That will increase their profits while also increasing our supply and keeping prices down. Win-win. Any refiner that is making increased investments in capacity and reliability is good news for the public. It is the refiners not making investments or shutting down capacity that you need to worry about. They are the ones looking to increase margins by selling less product and that is the real long term danger. Not the ones increasing investment.
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twiper1

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:18:45 AM
Valero looking out for the little guy. SURE, thats what they want you to believe
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goodbuy

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:18:28 AM
Good for Valero.
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mackconsult

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Portland
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:14:36 AM
You they figure they will make more $$$$$ based on the repair .... they are doing it for ROI not american supply capability.
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turbodog

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:12:46 AM
Glad to see investment in refining.
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BlueVanGroup

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:11:57 AM
This is the time to do it--during the switch from winter blends to summer blends.
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Lizzylou

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:10:45 AM
AGREE!! Another reason to raise prices!
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egd

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:10:20 AM
national growth of oil infrastructure is good
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goalie1950

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:07:12 AM
A worthwhile project to improve reliability and productivity of this facility. Hopefully, long term oil prices will benefit from these improvements.
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Helms

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:06:52 AM
surprised they didn;t use the economy as an excuse not to make the investment...when times are bad refiners typically can't justify the expense and when times are good they can't shut down for th eimprovements because they're running near or at capacity...what a gig!!
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sleepyt

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:06:44 AM
Long overdue
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DustyHorse

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:06:40 AM
Great news.
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MikLamb

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Texas
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:06:25 AM
Good.
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tobasco

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:04:54 AM
About time.
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VTROCK

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:02:43 AM
It's nice to see someone investing in refinery capacity. It has been a tough place to make money.
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reff5577

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:02:14 AM
IF THATS NOT ANOTHER REASON TOO JACK UP GAS PRICES THEN WHAT IS???
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PaylessKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:00:33 AM
Improve reliability, reduce frequency of maintenance? Well see.
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TFowler513

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Memphis
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 10:00:25 AM
Yet another reason to raise pump prices!!!
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Beboper

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:59:09 AM
there goes the prices again up up and away
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rasprout

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:56:53 AM
Sounds like reasons to raise prices...
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jayrad1957

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:56:22 AM
Another excuse for the speculators to raise prices again.
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Doubleeez

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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:56:02 AM
Sounds like just normal business maintenance and production. They have to do something to justify their R & D department.
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206awd250

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:54:51 AM
good for them. 1 refinery wont make a difference though.
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condé

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2010 9:54:42 AM
Good for them...
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